I am Dr. William Grey, M.D. and internist in Titchfield Engalnd. I am relocating my family to Madison, Wisconsin and I am interested in retention of you services to buy a house. Please send me information about homes that costing $400,000 to $600,000.
Sounds too good to be true? In most cases it is too good to be true – it is a complex scam.
Falling for the Scam
But, the scammers are sophisticated and even the suspicious, cautious REALTOR or attorney can get sucked into the scam. A wealthy, out of town buyer relocating to your area is every REALTOR’s dream. When you look up the foreign doctor’s name, you will find his information checks out. And, upon further emails, he will be very specific about his needs and wishes. He will tell you about his wife and children, his need to for 3 or more bedrooms, his desire to be near a school and he may even tell you the neighborhood he likes best.
Then, after sending 5 or 6 listings, the good Doctor will tell you he is ready to buy MLS Listing 0654321, the beautiful colonial on the west side. “Please make a full price offer, unless you think, in your judgment, that a different amount would be appropriate.” The Doctor will also provide you with the name of his financial advisor in New York and ask you for a referral to a local attorney.
At this point, the deal still seems suspicious, too good to be true, and likely to be a scam. But how can it be? He’s using a local attorney. He has a financial advisor at Global Financial, Inc. in Manhattan. And, his emails are so specific.
How The Scam Likely Works
The Doctor signs an offer to purchase remotely from England (or Canada or China) and then sends in the earnest money to either the REALTOR or the attorney. The earnest money check will not be for the customary amount, but instead for the entire purchase price. Oops. And in fact, the Doctor will also send another check for a hundred thousand dollars or more. OOPS! Then, after the checks have been deposited, the Doctor will request that the excess funds be returned via wire or western union. Even if the funds appear to have cleared or been credited to the REALTOR or Attorney account, the check will bounce. It was a fake. The wire goes to a foreign bank and is gone forever.
Avoiding the Scam
If a transaction appears too good to be true, it likely is. Some red flags and similarities include:
- A foreign buyer sends you large amounts of funds by accident
- A buyer asks you to deposit funds that come in by check and, shortly thereafter, return them via wire or Western Union (Western Union is a major red flag!)
- A buyer offers to pay full price for a house, sight unseen.
- The Financial adviser either is named Karen James or Paul Jackson and may work at Global Financial, Inc. (While it is possible these are real names and individuals, scammers are using these names)
- The Buyer is from China, Japan, England, or Canada (really any foreign country where the buyer is suddenly relocating and buying sight-unseen)
- The initial emails contain typos or poor grammar
- The Buyer moves incredibly fast, making a decision in hours or even minutes rather than days or weeks.
- The Buyer’s name is Otake Iwao, Miki Watanabe, Han Cheung, Han Hung, or Yuji Inoue
- The email address comes from @asia.com or some other generic email .
If you suspect a scam, ask lots of questions and have verbal, phone conversations at a minimum. Don’t send any private information, bank account numbers or anything else that you would not want a scam artist to have. Alert your Broker or legal counsel whenever a foreign individual is sending funds, even if the funds originate within the U.S. — this alone is cause for caution. Do not send out wired funds if the incoming funds were not wired. And do not send back large amounts until your bank can confirm with 100% certainty that the incoming funds were legitimate and fully cleared. Having access to the funds does not mean they cleared. Work with your bank to provide solid assurances that the funds are real and cleared whenever you suspect fraud.
I got one of those recently. Of course, I’d seen and read about enough other internet scams I pretty much immediately knew what the game was. I also had some direct experience with these birds from an online business I used to run, and people tried a smaller version of this on me a couple times. For the real estate scam, mine actually was a guy in Japan with a legal representative in Chicago, but its the same thing.
You can add domain name japan.com and the name Miki Watanabe to the list
The funny thing is, before I was entirely sure it was a scam I sent him a list of houses from the MLS to match his description and he chose a new construction not yet started and wanted to make sure I did a full house inspection immediately. Umm… if you want to keep the scam going maybe read the stuff I send you?
Fortunatley, these are not being perpetratted by the smartest scammers in the world.
We just went thru this! Too good to be true is CORRECT! Luckily, our attorney caught it before check was deposited. It was drawn on a bank in Canada. Be cautious, realtors!
This happened to us, too. Our scammer called himself BRIAN COLE with the address of BrianCole6783@yahoo.com I did speak to him several times on the phone, but have lost that info.
He offered to buy, full price, site unseen, and pretended to be sending “a representative” to check out the property. He “accidentally wired” the full purchase price plus something extra, and, of course, wanted us to send back the overpayment. He even sent a copy of the wire transfer which are bank was NOT able to determine whether it was fraudulent or not. (I was, though, based on text size, spacing, etc.)
We kept him on the hook long enough to report him to the FBI. They were very interested because, at the time, this type of scam had not yet been reported — and although it’s all over the net NOW, it wasn’t then.
NOW … I’m being solicited AGAIN by another type of scam, and this is one that I can’t find info on, either. It involves a site-unseen “buyer’s agent,” (a son saying he is buying for his father), who wants to RAISE our price by $120xxx, enter into a seller-finance agreement, he takes a $120xxx “finder’s fee,” and we allegedly walk away with the full list price. While I”m still not sure how the scam works, I have no doubt that is IS a scam. Too good to be true, site unseen, pressure to reach agreement within 24 hours, yahoo email address, an LLC that is registered with a generic agent, no phone # or website address, etc.
The alleged scammer name is EDWARD J. MITCHELL in Missouri, with an alleged father in Texas, a business name of Home Team Solutions, LLC registered in MO., an email address of homes4u2010@yahoo.com and phone number of 314-238-6228 If anyone has any information on this latest scam, I’d love to know!
Just went through this the past week 2/2011. Beware. The spelling from the client and the bank on the last name were different. No harm done! Name was Miki Watanbe. Bank was Scotia Bank out of Canada. Attorneys name was Collins McAdams, but when I called him, and he did answer, he was not as Irish as the name would appear. I would say more middle eastern accent.
Jeff Stack
Realtor – Northern VA
We are in Southwest New Mexico and we just received the same type of inquiry from a buyer in China. Wants to purchase property, sight unseen with a large earnest money deposit. Two of us received the identical email. As we compared notes we found it to be interesting that this guy wants to purchase 3 properties, which amount to more $ than he has in his Bank account (yes, he sent us a copy of his proof of funds from Bank of China in Beijing). The other agent tried calling the contact number that this guy gave us and the lines were busy. Thanks to all of you who shared your experiences. It helped me to confirm that if it sounds too good to be true, it is.
My eyebrow went up as soon as I read CASH OFFER for $350 – $500,000 and wondered how did he get my name? Hmmmm. Something smells funny. He chose a listing and proceeded to tell me more fishy information. Phew! Thank you for having this BLOG and saving me from making a big mistake! Who knows how many agents they may have contacted
I think I’m in the middle of one of those right now. The buyer’s name is Leo Thang. He hasn’t wired money in yet, though…
We went through the same scam except we are the sellers. We had everything packed up and ready to start a new life. Our house has been on the market for over three years and it was like a dream come true when our realtor called to let us know that we had a contract on our house. We went three weeks into this believing this was a done deal. Our realtor works for a big agency and you would think they would be up to date on all the scams. Our realtor is supposedly still in contact with this chinese person communicating with him about our home. This is the worst experience my husband and I have been through. We just lost my mother-in-law and really wanted a new life. It is a shame that people would do this to other people. What is the world coming to.
I’m currently working with a Japanese man who contacted me through my broker’s website. He is currently in contract to purchase a home, sight unseen, for all cash. Of course, I’m very suspect. He has sent a copy of his bank statement with a Canadian bank. We are waiting for his earnest money deposit and he says he sent it by mail even though we have provided him with wiring instructions for the title company. He also asked for a local attorney “to handle his financial interests” because he didn’t like sending his money to a third party. Well, we’ll see when/if the check comes in the mail.
Same here. I’m in So California…same EXACT language “He also asked for a local attorney “to handle his financial interests” because he didn’t like sending his money to a third party.” Exactly!! Then a check for $185,000 (1/3 down) arrived at the attorney’s office today – written DIRECTLY to the attorney. Well, fortunately it’s only 5 days in to the process. No reputable attorney would deposit the check without a retainer – especially one written directly to the attorney. Kudos to my friend Rick for pointing me to this article.
I think I have the same guy as friendlyinoakland. His last name is Eito and he came in through a broker website…realtor.com. He wants to buy a house he has never seen, but wants to have an inspection and wants me to refer him to a local attorney for the closing. He also sent me a copy of his bank statement which showed he had almost $3M. I asked him to wire the earnest money funds to the law firm. No money has been received yet. Guess I have been scammed…
did this go thru?
Thank everyone for sharing here my latest scam.
DEAR REALTOR
HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
THANKS ALOT FOR YOUR EMAIL.
DO KINDLY FORWARD THE HOME PURCHASE CONTRACTS TO ME.
I AM READY TO SIGN THEM NOW.
DO KINDLY NOTE,I AM OFFERING THE FULL PRICE ON THE PROPERTY AND ALSO I PLAN TO PAY IN CASH.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE ON THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER, 2011.
I AWAIT TO GET THE CONTRACTS ASAP.USE MY FULL NAME( DR. RICHARD SAINSBURY) AND ADDRESS( 108 Harley St London W1G 7ET ENGLAND).
ALSO KINDLY EMAIL A COPY OF THE CONTRACTS TO THE ATTORNEY GEORGE CRETELLA FOR HIS OWN REVIEW.
THANKS.
REGARDS,
DR. RICHARD SAINSBURY.
We received almost an identical letter from a different Dr in England. Got all the way to sending a contract when we became suspicious. I was able to find the real doctor online and he confirmed he was not buying any real estate in the U.S.
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Here is an example letter I received:
Hello David,
Thanks so much for your email. Please send me the contract for me to sign and return immediately this will be my retirement home and it will be a cash buy.
1. I will want to close on 28th Sept, 2011
2. I want to put down $10,000.00 Earnest money + $487,000.00 down payment towards home.
3. I want to put contingency on inspection on the contract. I will prefer to deposit my funds in the company of your attorney, because my friend had issue with title company in the past, so I dont want to deal with them direct.
Please forward me a purchase contract agreement in docusign format, docusign format is an electronic way of signing document. http://www.docusign.net
I am presently on Holiday in North America and i will issue payment in US Funds $497,000.00USD for the earnest money and the down payment for the property payable
to your attorney, the check will deliver to your attorney.
Please I need the following information for your attorney immediately at my own expense
Law Firm Name……………………………………………
Law Firm Address……………………………………………….
Law Firm Telephone………………………………………………
Lawyer’s Name…………………………………………………..
Lawyer’s Email…………………………………………………..
Please what amount was it reduced to.
Regards,
Hideki
Just got one of these. Went thru this 2 years ago with another guy and will not be falling for this scam again.
Ditto for me. We are in Laredo, Texas. The name of the prospect is Richard Sainsbury. We looked him up and he seemed legit but we moved cautiously. The fact that the e-mails were in capital letters and the fact that his english was not proper was our first clue. Second when he contacted me his accent was not English and when I looked up the country code it was from Nigeria. Luckily, their has been no harm done to any client, attorney, or our firm. It just goes to show that we not only need to look out for our clients, but we must watch out for ourselves as well.
Has anybody heard from a Han Lan from Beijing China? Cash buyer on new construction priced at $799,000.00. He offered $749,000.00 and just now sent me a bank statement from the Bank of China showing a 1,057,654.53 balance and he wants to wire $15K immediatly on a house that not only has he never seen, but isn’t nearly complete. I think I’ll let this deal go.
Have received request from Han Lan from Beijing China through REALTOR.com with a gmail email. He is also offering on a home sight unseen, but it is a $725,000 home that he is offering $715,000. He also supplied bank statement from the Bank of China and offered a $15,000 deposit until he gets to the U.S. in another month. After reading your email, I believe I will do the same and let the deal go.
I’m in Arizona and my buyer was Yu Li from Beijing, China. The check for $99,000 more than the purchase price was mailed to the attorney he requested I refer him too. I’d given the “client” 30 day inspection period because he was supposed to come the end of August 2012, but he didn’t arrive. It took 3 weeks for the funds to arrive. The inspection period was up on the 10th of September; the attorney told me on Thursday before that his bank said the funds were good; I held the inspection and the next day I received an email from the attorney that the funds are not good, so now I’m on the hook for the inspection… He is still emailing saying that he has invested money with his US broker and doesn’t understand why the funds aren’t good. What a mess.
Beijing is full of Scammers I recently was contact by Kin Hung. $679k home sight unseen and not even built completely yet! close early Dec. I must find him an attorney for escrow agent. I replied to him that I can’t wait to meet him when he does arrive to help him find the ‘right’ home for him! I did contact the US AG’s office and am waiting to hear back. ……
I have one going on with Oscar Paiva from the UK. Same thing, wanted my attorney, said he sent money to the attorney, wants to close in 30 days, sight unseen and sent me a proof of funds from Global Management Financial, which is the rip off reports online. My attorney and I both agree that this guy is a scam artist. My last one was from Japan 2 years ago. We don’t take cashiers checks in our area, so I told him I need him to wire the money. Haven’t heard from him since. The scammers are out there in full force.
I replied to him an explanation of procedures, including earnest money by bank wire for exact amount to the escrow company, and if he has a change of heart it will take several weeks to process.
Sending our office manager an alert to all our brokers.
Where are you located? I have heard from him here in Fort Myers FL
Gregg, one of our agents received something similar. Different names, but same scam. Steve Petty
The names used in our scam was Jean Marc Weber from Japan and the accountant’s name is Anderson Smith from Canada.
I also received an email from Jean Marc Weber for Satou Minoda and Anderson Smith was the financier in Canada. They sent a $145,000 check to the attorney and I cautioned them to check it carefully as I felt this was a scam – and it was. Be careful out there folks!
Han Lan is hoping to come to Tennessee as well! He offered 630,000 in cash on a lakefront home. Sent a statement from Bank of China.
We have heard from Han Lan and his “processor” here in Baton Rouge, LA
This is the email that we received!!!
We thank you for your message. Please be informed that our organization has send update to us for the payment of $390,100.32, in your possessions. To send update of the payment to us if you receive the payment and make a deposit in your account today. The update is send on behalf of Han Lan, Please update as soon as you receive this message.
Regards,
Graig Peterson, Jr
the “deal” may be that you get a check for more than is needed, it appears legit, but it is a fraudulent check drawn as a cashier check. He will ask you to wire the difference back. If you do, your good wire is NOT covered by the BAD check discovered after the fact.
He did not like the fact that I told him I am not a novice in this business.
Homeowner in Fort Collins, CO
His new name is now Hua Li. Had the same Bank of China bank account with the same balance reported by Steven above $1,057,654.53. Originally had 2.5 Million in account. Offered $380,000 cash on a $399,500 house. We countered with $394,000 and he excepted right away. Sight unseen. Offered a $15,000 earnest deposit then I found this site. Thank you. Only harm was to our hopes and dreams!
Bonnie, just heard from Oscar and dropped him. Thank goodness I read this website and your experience a few weeks ago.
I have my home listed in Alaska by a reputable firm and even they fell for this scam … almost. They even went as far as having papers drawn up and submitting a form with a local escrow company here … that’s when their bubble burst! They were told that 2 exactly worded offers went through their office alone recently. My regret is getting all excited about selling my home. One would think the realtor would of smelled a rat. The name of thar rat is Inoue Yuji of Beijing, China. Add him to your lists and beware all you people, we are being attacked through our ignorance!
Will in Alaska
Han Lan has hit the Pacific Northwest! Same MO as the others- almost to a tee! After telling him he couldn’t send the money to me or a lawyer- I’m thinking I won’t hear from him again….
What a stupid waste of time!
Don’t “rain” on my Parade in Vancouver, WA!
Mr. Lan Han does not like me. I told him I was not a novice and to see the scam report.
He replied to the agent:
I am sorry as I would not like to deal with Mr.Webb after the insult he gave me.
Han Lan sure is a busy guy! He has hit multiple Realtor’s in Arizona!
Missouri too, two agents in our office. He even signed a contract. Wants a local attorney as well to represent him.
Meet Fujimaki Teigo the next scammer – same mo as the rest of you -He Got my name from Realtor.com. Go figure… I googled his name and found all this scam info. Thank You
I am a Realtor in WI and I am currently “working” with the same person, although sometimes he spells his name Tiego – - other times Teigo from Japan. We just received EMD for $250,000 “cashier” check, even though I asked for $160,000 would have been 20% of his cash $800,000 offer on a site unseen lake home. The check was made out to the listing agent’s trust fund and sent by his ‘attorney’ Anderson Smith, Financial Advisor (andersonsmith@lawyer.com). I’m instructed to notify the atty. when the check is deposited for release of funds immediately, and,of course, Mr. Tiego will send further instructions for the disbursement of funds. His bank statement of 2+M is from The Royal Bank of Canada ; the EMD from this bank, but issued thru [intact] Disbursement Centre from Montreal, QC. Too good to be true??? I think so!
He hit us here too, same name, Boston area It is all the same MO. Nahant,Mass
Dr. Max Evans is on the prowl to purchase real estate, sight unseen, in Ottawa, Canada. Not sure where he hails from but English isn’t his first language….
Here in Maine…Just had an offer from Beijing ..reads like they had this menu in front of them …very disappointing for a lot of reasons. Provided bank statement , asked for local lawyer , sight unseen, no inspections necessary …TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ..never fails
Hurts a lot of people
ps…it was also almost a full price offer…
futher, just like will sullivan (above) this “client” says his name is Noe Yuij which he later corrected to call himself Noe Yu…Just got a copy of his passport with his photo …unbelievable…
obviously working on percentages …if they bait enough hooks at least one fish will get hooked..
Hideki Matsui has visited me in Virginia with the same MO that David J experienced in September. The only way I found out about this scam is because the prospective seller worked at the sheriff’s department for many years and smelled a rat! I hope karma takes it toll on these people.
And the scams keeping coming. Just got a follow-up email to an email Neo Yu sent me a few weeks back: sight unseen, he wants to purchase my listing. I won’t even bother to open his bank statement; from what everyone has said here, what’s the point? Here’s a copy of his email:
“I have been to the area last year and liked the location. Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month. This for we would not like to lose the property. I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month. The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference. I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close early March. Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.”
‘Tis the season to be ripped off!
Dyan, exact same scenerio, name, letter, EVERYTHING, here in little ‘ole Halifax, Pennsylvania. I am SO glad that I found this blog. What a lifesaver.
After relaying to “Neo” that he will no longer be hearing from our office, and pretty much telling “him” that we are onto him and that all of his correspondences will be forwarded to the authorities, this was the response we received. Has anyone else received such a response?
“This is annoying.
I am a respected individual in my community as I can not tarnish my reputation executing fake transactions.
I intend to buy two properties. One for rent and the other as a primary resident.
Would this be a problem?
Neo”
….I think Neo took the blue pill.
What I want to know is how does one make an international sale with a valid buyer?
I had this same letter from Hua Li from China. Coming to St Louis, MO in early March 2012
EXACT wording! Watch for these emails Realtors!
exactly the email I recieved!!
and this scam continues… we’re now at Sept 23.2012 and the response received had the same exact wording different person ..Han Hung or maybe Hung Han also had gmail address & used Bank of China in Beijing… with these postings I sure hope no one gets into a bad situation… Thank goodness for Google… I’m in the Bay Area, Northern California
I have the same name Han Hung from Beijing … same deal as everybody is reporting. Something seemed off, and I had a bad vibe. He’s now trying to buy in Zachary, Louisiana! Hmmmm ..
We have one that is verbatim from this one, with adjustments for date (mid December close) and name, Han Hung. Emailed him courteous reply with the procedure that is observed here–earnest money to be for exact amount and must clear before can proceed–”and that can take several weeks.”
Thank you to all who took the time to post here. You saved us time and possibly money.
Hey there, You’ve done a fantastic job. I’ll definitely digg it and personally suggest to my friends. I’m confident they will be benefited from this website.
Is there any way to stop or punish them?
I just received the same letter as D.N Blass from China and contact name is Mark Lee.We need to stop or better punish them.Any suggestion? Thanks
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: UNIT 24 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid May.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Lee
Lara:
I received the exact same letter from Mark Lee. What can we do – this is a complete waste of time!
I received pretty much the same letter from Yu Li. I wish there was something we could do. I went so far as to do inspection, under the assumption from the attorney that the funds were good. Wish I’d found this site earlier. I talked to people in my office it too, but it all looked good, if a little to good to be true. Except that I am now on the hook for the inspections, and the sellers are devastated, there is no real harm. I don’t know how they can think this will get them anywhere. It’s very upsetting
OMG .. I have the exact same email .. but Han Hung is the so called Buyer prospect! This is unbelievable! When they say something seems to good to be true .. it usually is! I was suspicious but really wasn’t sure. Thank you so much for posting this. According to this guy, he’s moving his family to Zachary, La! Yeah right ..
I receive the identical message from “Liang Cheung” -
“I have been to the area last year and liked the location.Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.This for we would not like to lose the property.I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.”
Liang wanted to offer $203K for a $204K listing and offered to send a $15K deposit for the unseen property.
I got the exact same message- mine is from Ming Rong. So glad I saw this. Message is the same word for word! This is for a property in NY- he sent bank account Bank of China
I also have a realtor that received a message but different name;
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 34 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 8994 2776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Early April.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Kin Ming
Just got an email from Kin Ming. Thanks for the heads up.
Looks like Mark has a brother, Lee Kelvin trying to buy property in York, NE. He has almost the same address and phone number as your Lee. He offered $389,500. $15,000 earnest. Coming to USA next month. Got him an attorney. Got a check for $350,900. We gave everything to the title company.
Just received the same letter as above from Yu Li. I am in St. George, Utah. Beware!
Craig Barr
Mr. Yu Li is now looking in Arizona. Sorry I didn’t see this earlier.
I am an attorney and had a real estate agent ask me about a similar offer and whether it was legitimate. I googled “Japanese Real Estate Scam” and got here. Just a further caution – some of the checks sent out in these types of scams are very clever forgeries. I have heard of similar checks deposited in attorney’s trust accounts that have not been returned within five days and attorneys who have called and been told by their banks that the check looks like it cleared only to have the check caught further down the processing line and returned as a forged item. The fact that a check doesn’t bounce back in five days does not mean it’s good.
This is what I got from Yu Lin
…
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have
seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China
before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank
statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: Flat 112 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid July.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Yu
Just got the same email from Hikaru Furukawa. Same thing… wants to close Mid May… it’s past mid May…
Add Dr. James Watts “from” the UK to your list. Same song, different verse. I was immediately suspicious and sent it to our attorney. I am giving him OUR terms, and the attorney is monitoring the situation. Thank God, my Mama didn’t ‘raise no fool”.
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F.Y.I., I got this e-mail few days ago.
[I am Mr. Zhang Wei, I will be relocating to your place with my family,after searching the Internet for a reliable real estate agent, I found your firm and i have decided to contact your firm too, to see if i could find any house i would like, and i would like you to please forward me some property photos and price. I need a 3 bed rooms/6 bed room's home with nice view and garage, and it will be close to school and in nice neighborhood in your city and state. please do mail more details.
Regards
Mr. Zhang Wei
zhangwei_1212@live.com]
This is the second mail from him after I sent my short greetng mail.
[Thank you for responding to my email. I am Mr. Zhang Wei, a Japanese origin I need a single family home, 3-6 bedroom 2-3 bath with a garage with or without swimming pool 2,500sqft to buy, price range starting from 200,000.00 to $700,000.00 in a nice & quiet community in any city or town in your state and it as to be a traditional sale and it should be close to school and shopping mall, and i have three children and they are age 14years, 10years and the last five years. Please no short sales and no foreclosure property
Regards,
Mr. Zhang Wei
Zhang Personnel Testing Authorities
5-2-1 Ginza, Chuo-ku
Tokyo 170-3293
Japan
Telephone: +81-3-3222-2068
Skype id zhang_wei112]
The third mail from him after I sent few MLS info.
[I am interested in this property ML#S701753/Listing Price: $699,900.00 I will like to retain the service of an attorney in this transaction to handle the financial part of this purchase and also to represent my interest. Please recommend an attorney for me I do not wish to forward my deposit to a third party before closing on the property. Because of time difference, it meant not be possible for me to reach the attorney on the telephone during business hour. I will like to ask you to contact the attorney on my behalf or send me their email address so that I can introduce myself to them regarding this transaction.
Below is the information you need before you can write the purchasing contract.
1). Organisation Zhang Personnel Testing Authorities
Contact Name Mr. Zhang Wei
Postal Address 5-2-1 Ginza, Chuo-ku
Tokyo 170-3293
Country Japan
Telephone +81-3-3222-2010
Fax +81-3-3222-2068
2). It is going to be cash buy on the property and I will like home inspection to be done on the property.
Sincerely,
Mr. Zhang Wei]
After this e-mail, I asked him to sign and return the C.A.R. Form-AD along with his passport and corporate registration issued by the Japanese goverment. Also, I offered my attorney in Tokyo to pick them up at the location he mentioned above.
Then, this is the last message came from him and no more mails after that.
“i will do that and send it back to you thanks”
no greetings, no name, just 1 line.
Some time most people do write up what ever they want to do on the net if some one say he want to buy a house and later did not that mean he is a scam why did you find out why he did not buy the house or did get back to you again.
I will stand and watch you guys talk to my boss and put our company name here and saying all kind of words. Try and change your life style so that all will be well with you guys. This is the reason it never go well with you all thanks
Hi I received the same email and have opened escrow, once I questioned about the funds I did some further checking and I believe this to be a scam as well. Please let me know.
It is a scam. He sent us a very good counterfeit cashier’s check drawn on Chase Bank. Chase Bank Security has the check and his information. Force them to wire transfer the EXACT amount needed directly to escrow. They will disappear. He sent us a check for $55,000 and wanted $20,000 as down payment. He then wanted us to RUSH a wire transfer to a company in China for the remainder. If we had done so we would have been responsible for the $30,000 loss once the cashiers check would have bounced back from Chase. Chase security said that it was a nice counterfeit, as well as his proof of funds. The check appeared to be printed on old Chase paper stock. These guys are good, persistent and apparently don’t worry about capture. May be government sponsored?
Kenji, thank you. To the Letter!! this is what I received yesterday, sent off the listings today………….. now I know what to expect back and trash the lead. PLUS warn all the Agents in my Area that this is going around. I did suspect it was a Scam ….
Yea, we just had Mr. Zhang Wei approach us, Zhang Wei Personnel Agency. About the same time a Dr. Andrew Cowley out of London. Both wanting to purchase real estate site unseen. Both wanting to send checks to us or our attorney for more than the purchase price. Red flags flew because they both had yahoo.hk extensions on their E-Mail address. “Dr. Cowley” disappeared but Mr. Zhang had his “attorney” send us a cashier’s check allegedly issued by the Chase Bank for more than was required for the good faith deposit, wanting excess funds sent to a China company, via wire transfer, for building materials. Red flags flew and we started researching and found your information. We have sold to foreigners in the past, monies always wire transferred to escrow for the exact amounts needed. We will be submitting the check to our bank who will probably call in the FBI.
Our request came from Mr. Zhang Hua from Tokyo – exact same wording as those from Zhand Wei. Thanks for the heads-up!
Jim
Mr, Zhang Hua sent the same wording email to me. He sent his financial state that was Zhang Wei and he type over the last name with Hua.
Our guy’s name is Han Cheung. But it’s the same M O, same type back and forth emails, 15k down, blah blah blah. We are in the Florida Panhandle. These guys are everywhere. Thanks for the blog.
Han also wants to move to Idaho!
Should you contact someone in law enforcement to investigate and prosecute these individuals? I have a so called client like this right now.
Thanks for the blog, I also have a Marc Jean Weber in Japan, with an accountant Anderson Smith in Canada that maybe trying to pull a fast one.
I also would like to know how to go about reporting this.
PLEASE REPORT THIS TO THE FBI. The more the word gets out the better we can work to stop this scam.
We got a fake Cashiers check as well. Upon reviewing and following up with the name on the CC we discovered it was not ligit.
They used Docusign. Keep any DocuSign akcnowledgement you get and remember to report this to the FBI.
Thanks for your response and info, I will do this.
what department in the FBI – I unfortunately accepted the check, waited ten business days and then send the 15,000 to the title company. I have notified them to return that wire to me but this is my attorney trust account so I am concerned
Wow….well I too just received the email from a mr. Xhang Wei…I will post the email below he even sent me a bogus bank statement. this is a total scam…..OIY! See Below hope it helps.
1. I am a business man and relocating my family to the United States under
> the Business/family class.
>
> I am Japanese by origin but I run my business in China and make supplies to
> several countries including the USA.
> 2. My family moves in 2nd week of August and i will be joining them by the
> end of August, I will be going to Europe by this months end to roll up
> business partnership deal, I am currently in China mainland for business and
> will return to Japan by wednessday.
> 3. I will be paying cash on property, i can do a wire or write a check or
> have an associate send the funds to you.
>
> I am interested in this property
>
> I will also like to retain the service of an attorney in this transaction to
> handle the financial part of this purchase and also, to represent my
> interest.
> Please recommend an attorney for me I do not wish to forward my deposit to a
> third party before closing on the property.
>
> Due to time difference, it may not be possible for me to reach the attorney
> on the telephone during business hour. I will like to ask you to contact the
> attorney on my behalf. Also send me the attorney’s email address so that I
> make a written introduction regarding this transaction.
>
> Attached is my bank statement.
> Below is the information you need before you can write the purchasing
> contract.
>
> 1). Name: Mr. Zhang Wei
> Kiyokawa 2-18-8-901
> To
> Tokyo Taitou-ku
> Postal Code 111-0022
> Japan
> 2). Telephone: 81 44 952 7095
> 3). It is going to be cash buy on the property and I will like home
> inspection to be done on the property 4). Offer: $320,000 and closing date:
> 30th of JULY, 2012
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mr. Zhang Wei
> PROPRIETOR/C.E.O. Sai Mag Wheels
> 5-2-1 Ginza, Chuo-ku
> Email: zhang.wei@saimagswheels.com
> http://www.saimagswheels.com
SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM
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I got him going right now, using thename Han Lin.
Same one, Han Lin here in Fort Collins CO as well.
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have
seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China
before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank
statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: Flat 112 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid July.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Always tell them that you only work with bank wire transfers for the exact amounts needed. Don’t ever work with cashiers checks, especially if sent with more money than is needed and they want you to wire trans the excess somewhere. If you do, you will owe your bank that excess because the Cashiers Checks have turned up to be great forgeries. We got one drawn on Chase and Chase Bank Security said it was a great forgery on some of their old paper stock and a former endorser’s electronic signature for Chase. Good thing we went to them first before depositing in our account!
Dr Peter Schofield from the UK emailed me last night. Today, he miraculously turned into Dr Andrew Cowley. Sent him a not-so-kind “Thanks, But No Thanks” note. Had another scammer contact me about a year ago, so I knew the drill. Too bad these scumbags use innocent by-standers’ names!
The question that keeps on popping up in my head is, “If we can walk on the moon, why can’t we nail these thugs?”
We can’t nail them because they may be government sponsored? The counterfeit Chase Bank Cashier’s check we received was printed on old chase paper stock with an old Chase signature. Chase Security was impressed with it and the proof of funds forgery.
Just came across this site and wanted to thank you for all of your posts. I’m dealing with Mr. Kin Cheung from Unit 34, Xin Chaoyang District, Beijing, China. Telephone 86 96 894 27776. Same story…$15,000 deposit, wanting to purchase two properties in the $600k price range, sight unseen, in Olympia, WA. I just asked him to provide a copy of his passport…we’ll see if he complies!
Han Hung lives at that same address too .. ha! I received the same email with the same contact info and details .. just a different name. This is repulsive!
I too just received similar request from Dr. Peter Schofield from the UK
There is no one on the face of this planet who is going to send $600,000 to buy a house, sight-unseen. This is a ridiculous scam and shame on anyone that falls for it.
They disappear when you tell them that you have an office policy that they must wire transfer the exact amount to Escrow and that you do not honor Cashier’s Checks!
I just got hit with a buy inquiry from Zhang Wei on a private sale in New Brunswick Canada a couple of days ago.Aside from poor English in te email what first tipped me off was that his “Japaneese Origin” as he puts it, was with a Chineese name.As well the lack of a direct response from him to me request for a Skype address to communicate directly.I also requested a Canadian contact from him sionce he claimed to have had owned businesses here in Canada.When I found this blog it was only after he sent me the bogus address in Japan.As I read through the posts on this blog, I was amazed at this meathead’s stupidity as emails were identical to the ones he sent me and even some of teh canned replies.I have reported this to the police and have advised the police to alert the Canadian Bar Association9to warn lawyers) and the Canadian Real Estate Board(to alert Real Estate Agents)…the more noise that can be brought to these aganecies…the fewer chances that someone will be ripped off !
I just received similar from a “Dr. Peter Schofield” Cardiologist in United Kingdom. He had contacted a local realtor with similar scam, realtor unknowingly referred to me. I realized a scam and when the good doctor called me (with an Indian accent) I advised him that I was not interested in his scam, at which time he hung up on me, confirming the scam. Subsequently I received a beautifully done official check drawn on Scotiabank for $205,900.80. No followup from good doctor. The lengths these idiots go to is amazing.
Our “Dr. Peter Schofield” has been a busy guy.Our agent recieved a “cashiers check” also. Sun Trust Bank knew immediately that it was fradulent.
Yes. Han Lin tried to pull the exact same stunt in Kentucky—same story and bank info, same $15,000 deposit for a property not seen. His emails stopped when asked for copies of his visa and to wire the deposit. Appreciate the heads up regarding this scam from previous posts.
I also have been contacted by Dr. Peter Schofield. I contacted my Attorney who told me that more than likely it is a scam, which is what I thought to begin with. What Cardiologist in their right mind would by a very modest house, less than 2000sf, in a rural area of North Florida sight unseen. I went ahead and sent him the contract along with my attorney’s wiring instructions for the escrow. He sent the contract back to me with signatures. I then proceeded with another email in which I requested a scanned copy of his color photo id and his citizenship status, either Foreign National or US Citizen. To date I have not heard back from him. LOL!!!!
Don’t just throw away all foreign Buyers. Demand that they send ALL funds by Bank Wire Transfer for the exact amounts needed. If legitimate they will do so. If a scam, they will insist that they send you a “Cashiers Check” that will be a great forgery that looks real but is fake, they will send more than you need so that you can wire transfer funds back to them after the check “clears” in two days. Later it will come back as a forgery and you, not your bank, will be responsible for funds wire transferred to them! Meaning that you will take a big financial hit!
If you don’t move fast enough or they want to multiply the scam, they will ask you to refer them to a local Real Estate Attorney where they will try to run the scam on them.
Make certain that all of you link this site on all your social internet sites.
Thanks, Charlie Davis
Same story as Karen posted on 8/6…I’m in Charlotte. Han Cheung is the buyer with the same copy of the bank statement showing that same balance: $1,057,654.53 and same contact number and address. I knew it was too good to be true…
Thanks everyone for you input; hate to see anyone scammed; this business is hard enough!
We were hit by this scam as well. It took a great deal of joy from our lives. I’m so sorry for anyone who this hits. It seems to be happening to many people including us.
I am Joan’s agent and I am physically sick that this has happened to them and to me. The story above about the people packing up their home and getting ready to move was really horrific. I agree that we can’t through out all foreign buyers, but we must be very careful. I had a very good virtual tour on this home, so it actually didn’t surprise me too much that they would buy it sight unseen. They also wanted inspections. All of those things helped keep the illusion going. This is going to be a blog that I will continue to visit. I will also make my real estate community aware of this. It does seem like there is something we should be able to do to stop this from happening.
I just need a copy of the opening statement in a trial to recover $15,000 as down-payment, plus other expense!
I think I am in the middle of one of these deals right now with Han Cheung – I am getting almost hourly demands to send money to his wife’s attorney as they are going through a divorce now – same BAnk of China statement, same Scotia Bank contacts – I have contacted our State Attorney General and US Attorney – but am refusing to send any funds to him.
Add Yuji Inoue (yujiinoue16@gmail.com) to the list. Same bank account balance as mentioned above, same letter too.
Jim Irving, Realtor, Paso Robles, CA
Hi..I got the letter from Han Hung… I told him I couldn’t start the process until his check clears the bank because I need to verify that this isn’t a scam.
He wrote back ” I am a respected individual in my community as I can not tarnish my reputation executing fake transactions. I will be in your office when I arrive USA and then would initiate the purchase process then”.
Too funny!! Exact same Bejing letter others posted here..
Darn…it was a $750,000 house.
Celia… I got one from Han Hung also… the one he wanted to go after out my way was $810K… LOL I hear u loud and clear… just didnt feel right to me…
Yep. Han Hung. $15,000. Copy of the bank statement showing that same balance: $1,057,654.53. Address: Unit 34, Xin Chaoyang District, Beijing, China. Telephone 86 96 894 27776.
I just got one from Han Hung also, all the same information and the bank letter. This home is $450,000. I had one last year from a Japanese name so I was far more aware this time. Good to know his name is on this list though so I can shut it down immediately.
I’m in the middle of one of these now…it seems. Here’s the Realtor.com inquiry that I received:
This is an automated inquiry sent by a REALTOR.com® consumer. Please do not reply to this email. Please contact Kin Cheung directly using the information below.
First Name: Kin
Last Name: Cheung
Email Address: kincheung14@gmail.com
Phone Number:
Best time to contact: Any time.
Needs a response: Immediately.
Plans to buy or sell within: 1 month.
I need: An answer to a quick question (see comments below)
Comment:
Hello,
I would like to formally present an offer of $415,000 for this property.Kindly get back to me ASAP, if my offer would be acceptable by the sellers.
Thanks
Kin
This consumer inquired about:
Property Address:
Email target: Agent
Basic Property Attributes:
$429,950
Bed: 3
Bath: 3
Property Type: Single Family Home
Wonderful blog & good post.Its really helpful, awaiting for more new post. Keep Blogging.
Jeffrey T. Angley, P.C.
Lafayette Indiana has bare ground HAN HUNG & his wife are OK with too! His Bank of China statement shows he spent $1.45 million “check cashed to self” within 13 days in September alone. I googled his name and found all of your comments. Good reporting people!
Thanks for sharing this, always another interesting scam coming along, I hope nobody ever falls for these.
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I have also been stung by Han Hung! I have been dealing with him for the last week and same exact email some of you have received. I am located in WV so it has hit here as well. We need to send a warning to all of our state associations warning realtors of this scam!
Good ole Han Hung is gettin around with his family! He wanted to buy a home from me in Zachary, La!! I’m so thankful for having a suspicious mind and this website!!! Thank you!!
Han Hung is trying to buy here in Virginia too! I hope these people get caught. It is upsetting to think you have your house sold and then to find out it was a scam! I’m so glad I read this!
A few months ago my son got burned by a scam similar to this. They were paying him to be a “mystery shopper”, and he was to complete two transactions. One was testing Western Union, after their check was deposited in his account, he was to send an amount to a name they gave him, then fill out a questionaire about the experience. The second involved making a purchase at a pet supply store, and oh, just keep whatever you purchased. Then the zinger, they cancelled or stopped payment on their check, therefore making his bank account overdrawn by about $3,500.00. It wasn’t large dollars like a Real Estate transaction, but hard to lose when you aren’t able to work. Again, a case of it being too good to be true!
El P,TX 915
I had a scam just lke, that of a “mystery Shopper” but I called the bank and sure enough the check was fraudulent, remember that saying “There’s a sucker born every minute” don’t be that sucker. Gd luck out there.
Google the best think in the world!!!
I just got email today it was suspicious. I found other blog with almost the same scam and phone number identical.
“I was in new york last year and i would like to have a home there
for me and my families to enjoy our holiday this XMAS.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we
have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from
China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
For this we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my
bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 34 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: +86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Early November
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
chang lee?
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 34 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid December.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Han
I almost got duped by Han Hung until I Googled him and read this string! Exact same letter. SO glad I didn’t waste my time (or the poor Seller’s time) on this. THANK YOU!
Well, “Han’s” brother “Lin” Hung just sent me the same email with a copy of his bank statement. Gave the following as his address:
Address: Flat 112 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
So glad for Google and glad I checked it out before contacting my Sellers!!
Carol Ann
Here’s another…
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have
seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China
before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank
statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 34 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid
December.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Han
..Great…I had a potential Buyer “Kin Hung” contact me:…same letter, address, ph. #, deposit, etc. I had a gut feeling right from the 1st email…………JEEZ!
Donna LaConte, REALTOR, RE/MAX Central Realty
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have
seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China
before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank
statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 34 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid
December.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Han
Thank you for all the padt comments. I ask him to start the process with a western union or money gram never ever give a bank account until the person you are dealing with is totally legitimated.
I am dealing with Han Hung right now. The exact same contact information, etc. When things are too good to be true they usually are! People like this really make me sick!
Han Hung got me here in Seattle Washington also. His ruse became revealed today in a clock hour class I took when I overheard another realtor explaining the same “puzzling transaction” and we both discovered we were representing the same buyer (Han Hung!!)! Another realtor said she read the following article last Wedneday: http://mukilteobeacon.villagesoup.com/p/real-estate-scams-and-scallywags/925140
Mr. Hung is a very busy man. (another coincidence: I have a full-price cash back up to Mr. Hans contract from an agent who is representing a cash buyer with a french name who provided Canadian Proof of funds. BEWILDERING to say the least!!!
I am in Jamaica, just received a call a few days ago asking me for information about the property I have for sale. His name is Anand Puri, and he says he comes from Florence in Italy – has an .it email address – called me from an italian number. Says he is looking to invest in Jamaica on behalf of his uncle. Anyway sent pictures description etc. he has now phoned me again – can’t place his accent, although not really familiar with italian. Says they have looked at the info and like the property. Next is will we accept a 60/40 split 60% of money bank transfer and 40% hard cash if they offer the full price!! Talking 40% of more than a million US$ – thats a lot of hard cash!! So i have now forward him a letter from my attorney to request photo ID, address, occupation and name of their attorney. Anyone know of anything similar?
You ought to take part in a contest for one of the greatest websites on the web. I most certainly will recommend this blog!
One of our agents received and email from Mr. Oscar Paiva. I notcied someone else received an email from him. So obviously a scam.
Mr. Oscar Paiva
Lorne Stewart Plc
Address: Stewart House 420 Kenton Rd Harrow Middlesex HA3 9TU, UK
Company No: 01348218 Registerd in UK
Email: engroscarpaiva@rocketmail.com
Oscar is the same guy I was dealing with. Have not heard back from him since I called his bluff.
I got the same exact message and I just wrote him an angry email. To what authority we can report this email to?
Shouldn’t the FBI be involved in this?????
Funny, I thought Oscar Paiva was my client!!!
Thanks for enlightening those of us willing to google “real escape scams”!
John, I just got done with dealing with our friend, Oscar. Luckily I and my attorney had seen him listed by others on this web site, even though we both had our doubts about him. You would think he would have changed his name by now. The problem I have now is trying to deal with other, international buyers. How does one seperate the legitimate ones from the scam artists?
Kin Ming is shopping in North Idaho this week. Also not wanting to lose the property same story be here next month etc. From Beijing China. Thanks for the information folks.
Oscar sure is busy lately. A realtor client called me last week to ask for help with “Mr. Paiva” (same address, email, etc.). “Mr. Paiva’ just emailed to let me know he’d prefer to use my account, rather than a title company. I’ll bet he would. Thanks for the prior posts. My suspicions are confirmed.
Oscar Paiva, from UK, even called me. The caller ID showed as the call coming from Nigeria. I asked him why it shows as Nigeria and he said first that he is using a calling card and that Nigeria is close to the UK. He is supposiedly sending me his proof of funds. I told him we can do business when he comes into town. I’m sure that will be his last phone call to me.
Jim and Bonny I just heard from Oscar this week. Someone even phoned me and the call originated from Nigera
From these posts in January it seems Oscar Paiva is the name of the month for scammers
KIN MING is also shopping in MN! I wish I could insert a PDF to show everyone what the fake Bank Statement from the Bank of China looks like. I did send a copy of it to the Bank of China fraud Department in Manhattan.
Kin Ming also shopping in Texas. Same exact verbage – what a deal. Someone needs to stop these guys.
UPDATE: I sent a copy of the Bank of China bank statement to the Bank of China in NYC. Here is their response:
Dear Ms. ———-
Please note 1) the bank statement you provided is not from
Bank of China New York Branch, 2) we have no access to BOC
China-based database, therefore we cannot verify the
statement.
Please pay extra attention to the “Date of Statement: 01 Jan
2013” which is later than the date “2012年3月6日”printed on the upper right corner. This might be a fraud. Thank you!
Best regards,
Bank of China New York Branch
Kin Ming is shopping in SW Florida as of today.
Kin Ming has struck again near Milwaukee. It sounded too good to be true and it was. Glad I didn’t put too much time into it and feel bad for those who’ve gone further with this. I also received the bank statement from Bank of China and exact same email verbage.
Can you all let me know if you think this is a scam?
I have my home listed for sale by owner and recently was contacted by a lady(speaks perfect english) that is deployed in the military over seas. She want to purchase the home without seeing it.
She has called me almost everyday for a week and emailed back and forth. I have sent hundreds of photos and the sellers disclosure forms. She had an inspection set up for A few days from today but it had to be resheduled. She says she is working on the loan approval. So that sounds different then most scams on here. Just a little scared about this situation. Its one of those “too good to be true” situations.
I believe it could be the same. There would be no reason to have an inspection with out some kind of deposit from a military account. Also she should have a lawyer set up to review or write a contract since you are selling by owner. You know what they say, if it seems too good to be true, IT IS.
Well i think i have the latest scammer. His name is Kin Ming from Beijing buying a $650,0000 home cash wants to send $15,000 k escrow close 4/12 he will buy and not do inspection until later.I Was not sure at first if real but after reading this blog know its not . I sent him the contract tbefore i read this blog and gave him 3 days to wire money no check and upped the escrow to $65 k and also said we need a copy of passpot for the transaction so we will let this play out and get i guess the local FBI office involved.. I had a feeling it was a scam.
Just got another email from Kin Ming saying he got the documents and will have his lawyer review them it will be interesting to see how this transpires.
These are a few of the emails I have received from Kin Ming in Beijing. I just received signed contracts back from him and now I am going to send him another email saying my seller changed their mind and include this site and let him know we are on to their scams. Any thoughts out there?
I knew from the get go it was a scam but that little voice says you never know.
Everyone needs to contact their local board with copies of the emails/names so they can send out a blast to all the agents. I will be doing that this morning after I bust Kin Ming’s bubble and let him know he has been busted.
Original Email from Zillow –
Good Day, I am very much interested in this property and willing to make payment of $650,000 for it. Kindly let me know, if my offer is acceptable. Regards Kin Ming
You can reach me at (968) 942-7776 – Number does not work
2nd email.
have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 45 Liwaili Apartment, Futong West Street, Chaoyang, Beijing, China
Telephone: 86 96 8994 2776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Early April.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Kin
Third Email
Thank you as I do not know how business is ran in USA but here in China, we do not settle any up-front deposit before we review documents.
The offer would be in my name only i.e Kin Ming
I would like an inspection but it would not be contingent to the purchase.
I would like to close April 12th
I hope you understand my plights as I await the offer document to review soon.
Email this morning 1/30/2013
Attached are scanned copies of the acknowledged document.
As I have said before, the home will be a cash buy and I and my wife will fly to USA for viewing the property but before that I would like my stock broker in America to send the money to your firm via a lawyer/solicitor.
I want to make the funds available in USA before coming to view the property, please I would want you to retain a lawyer for me so that my stock broker can send the funds directly to him to keep in a trust account until I arrive in USAwith my wife.
Please let me know the lawyer retaining fees and charges so that my stock broker can include all in the payment he would be sending to the lawyer.
Kindly get back to me with a candid response as I plan to be in USA soon.
Regards,
Kin
I’ve received the exact same emails Karen! Thank you for posting.
This Kin Ming sounds somewhat legit. I don’t think talking by phone would have called him out better than you post!
Using the word Plights is the key trigger for me.
Even sent me a drivers license / photo ID.
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We have almost the exact same emails from him but his name is now Kin Chan. Same address and phone number and situation. We also thought well maybe he is for real until…
He sent a personal check to the Attorney instead of a wire and it was for a couple hundred thousand more than the required EMD which made us concerned especially when he asked for most of it to be wired back to him.
Beware of him!
Have not heard one word since i called him a scammer and he got insulted said he was a legit business man.
Oscar Paiva scam caught me. I was suspicious until the money was deposited but went thru the motions e.g. sending properties for sale, slected one, opened escrow, signed contracts digitlly, etc-much time wasted. Then a fake cashiers sent to escrow-they caught it and returned it to the Bank He had the nerve to ask for a personal loan of $1,000-Ha! What a Joke!!!! After doing a deal for $400,000 cash???? all a scam. Be wary of foreign Buyers who only talk briefly on phone or internet! Richard in Las Vegas, Nevada.
I sent him another email calling him out on his scam and he actually sent me a response saying he was a legit business man and he would come by and see me when he comes to town. I wont hold my breath. Her sent me an ID card as well. what they won’t think of.
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I might be in the begining stages of a scam. I have my house for sale by owner. And i recieved a call, first by the wife saying that she scopes out property for her husband that is a investor from canada. She ask a lot of questions about the property and told me that if her husband likes it then he would call me. Sure enough he called me about 10 mins after getting off the phone with her from a Canada number, (780)818-4368 Alberta Canada. He asked me tons of questions of the house and seemed very interested and even asked me how soon can i move out. My red flags started to raise when he accidently let out that he believed my house was in Oklahoma. I said no, You must have me confused then. He then quickly corrected himself and rambled on. His pitch so far is that, he is a investor from Canada, that has people working for him threw out the United States buying houses and that he will get back to me by the end of the week with a potential buyes……mmm we’ll see. This has scam written all over it, I believe. oh and his name he gave me was Ed Ezra.
I received the same Email from a man in China today, 3/21/13. It had the same info in it as the one received by Karen Riscinto above. Looks like they are not giving up. Fortunately, we have all grown suspicious of this type of activity. There are some very bad people out there.
I am now involved in a “transaction” with Kin Chan. I should have Googled 1st. The 1st red flag went up when the attorney I referred him to called to tell me his bank didn’t like the routing number on the check he sent. Everything seemed pretty legit at 1st. Here in San Diego it is very common for people in China to buy homes. Sight unseen, not so common, but not outside the realm of possibility either. After negotiating with the seller back and forth a few times we settled on price and terms. The attorney and I are both telling him the only way to complete the transaction is to wire funds immediately. I’m assuming he’s going to have some objection to doing that.
Is it possible to be pulled in from the other side? In being the Personal Assistant to one of these fakes? I have been contact by a person name Richard Wilson, who I cannot find any information about online. He says he is a Lawyer and Realtor, but every time I look for him, I do not find him. I do have an e-mail of what he sent me, I find it kind of odd to be on this end, but this website came up when I put information in about him, so I thought I would post something on here.
I received an e-mail from my Ad looking for a job from a number 424 (Which is a U.S Number) And He gave me only a brief description from the business. When I had replied this is what I received (only part of the email);
My name is Mr Richard Wilson,i have a family of 3 and i am a Realtor and Lawyer.I travel alot,hence the reason why i need an assistant to handle affairs for me on the home front when i am away on business which is usually quite often. This position is home-based and flexible you can be in any location,working with me is basically about instructions and following them, my only fear is that I may come at you impromptu sometimes, I need someone who can be able to meet up with my irregular timings.There is also a very sensitive issue on trust and accountability which I believe will resolve itself as time goes on.
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Not too sure if this guy is being real, or not. He claims he is a Realtor, and Lawyer. Yet does not give any more detail than this. Just thought you guys should know this as well.
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here is my experience:
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: Flat 124 Yuanjing CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 26665
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid June.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Jen.
Andy,
Thanks! I just received the same email…word for word. I am thankful that you posted the email. I’ve been researching online, using the phone number and found this. It’s always a good thing to research!
My offer looks almost identical to yours!
“I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: unit 45 Liwaili Apartment, Futong West Street, Chaoyang, Beijing, China
Telephone: +86968942776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Early July.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
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Wonder if anyone had similar experience as mine: right before signing the contract, potential buyer from China changed cash deal (which earned her a discount) to mortgage contingent. Is this legit? I only know it’s unethical, and a waste of everyone’s precious time. It may not be a scam, but if someone else had a similar experience, it might very well be a new and more sophisticated way of damaging the system. Will post name once I hear from readers’ reply.
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