I am Dr. William Grey, M.D. and internist in Titchfield Engalnd. I am relocating my family to Madison, Wisconsin and I am interested in retention of you services to buy a house. Please send me information about homes that costing $400,000 to $600,000.
Sounds too good to be true? In most cases it is too good to be true – it is a complex scam.
Falling for the Scam
But, the scammers are sophisticated and even the suspicious, cautious REALTOR or attorney can get sucked into the scam. A wealthy, out of town buyer relocating to your area is every REALTOR’s dream. When you look up the foreign doctor’s name, you will find his information checks out. And, upon further emails, he will be very specific about his needs and wishes. He will tell you about his wife and children, his need to for 3 or more bedrooms, his desire to be near a school and he may even tell you the neighborhood he likes best.
Then, after sending 5 or 6 listings, the good Doctor will tell you he is ready to buy MLS Listing 0654321, the beautiful colonial on the west side. “Please make a full price offer, unless you think, in your judgment, that a different amount would be appropriate.” The Doctor will also provide you with the name of his financial advisor in New York and ask you for a referral to a local attorney.
At this point, the deal still seems suspicious, too good to be true, and likely to be a scam. But how can it be? He’s using a local attorney. He has a financial advisor at Global Financial, Inc. in Manhattan. And, his emails are so specific.
How The Scam Likely Works
The Doctor signs an offer to purchase remotely from England (or Canada or China) and then sends in the earnest money to either the REALTOR or the attorney. The earnest money check will not be for the customary amount, but instead for the entire purchase price. Oops. And in fact, the Doctor will also send another check for a hundred thousand dollars or more. OOPS! Then, after the checks have been deposited, the Doctor will request that the excess funds be returned via wire or western union. Even if the funds appear to have cleared or been credited to the REALTOR or Attorney account, the check will bounce. It was a fake. The wire goes to a foreign bank and is gone forever.
Avoiding the Scam
If a transaction appears too good to be true, it likely is. Some red flags and similarities include:
- A foreign buyer sends you large amounts of funds by accident
- A buyer asks you to deposit funds that come in by check and, shortly thereafter, return them via wire or Western Union (Western Union is a major red flag!)
- A buyer offers to pay full price for a house, sight unseen.
- The Financial adviser either is named Karen James or Paul Jackson and may work at Global Financial, Inc. (While it is possible these are real names and individuals, scammers are using these names)
- The Buyer is from China, Japan, England, or Canada (really any foreign country where the buyer is suddenly relocating and buying sight-unseen)
- The initial emails contain typos or poor grammar
- The Buyer moves incredibly fast, making a decision in hours or even minutes rather than days or weeks.
- The Buyer’s name is Otake Iwao
- The email address comes from @asia.com or some other generic email .
If you suspect a scam, ask lots of questions and have verbal, phone conversations at a minimum. Don’t send any private information, bank account numbers or anything else that you would not want a scam artist to have. Alert your Broker or legal counsel whenever a foreign individual is sending funds, even if the funds originate within the U.S. — this alone is cause for caution. Do not send out wired funds if the incoming funds were not wired. And do not send back large amounts until your bank can confirm with 100% certainty that the incoming funds were legitimate and fully cleared. Having access to the funds does not mean they cleared. Work with your bank to provide solid assurances that the funds are real and cleared whenever you suspect fraud.
I got one of those recently. Of course, I’d seen and read about enough other internet scams I pretty much immediately knew what the game was. I also had some direct experience with these birds from an online business I used to run, and people tried a smaller version of this on me a couple times. For the real estate scam, mine actually was a guy in Japan with a legal representative in Chicago, but its the same thing.
You can add domain name japan.com and the name Miki Watanabe to the list
The funny thing is, before I was entirely sure it was a scam I sent him a list of houses from the MLS to match his description and he chose a new construction not yet started and wanted to make sure I did a full house inspection immediately. Umm… if you want to keep the scam going maybe read the stuff I send you?
Fortunatley, these are not being perpetratted by the smartest scammers in the world.
We just went thru this! Too good to be true is CORRECT! Luckily, our attorney caught it before check was deposited. It was drawn on a bank in Canada. Be cautious, realtors!
Just went through this the past week 2/2011. Beware. The spelling from the client and the bank on the last name were different. No harm done! Name was Miki Watanbe. Bank was Scotia Bank out of Canada. Attorneys name was Collins McAdams, but when I called him, and he did answer, he was not as Irish as the name would appear. I would say more middle eastern accent.
Jeff Stack
Realtor – Northern VA
We are in Southwest New Mexico and we just received the same type of inquiry from a buyer in China. Wants to purchase property, sight unseen with a large earnest money deposit. Two of us received the identical email. As we compared notes we found it to be interesting that this guy wants to purchase 3 properties, which amount to more $ than he has in his Bank account (yes, he sent us a copy of his proof of funds from Bank of China in Beijing). The other agent tried calling the contact number that this guy gave us and the lines were busy. Thanks to all of you who shared your experiences. It helped me to confirm that if it sounds too good to be true, it is.
My eyebrow went up as soon as I read CASH OFFER for $350 – $500,000 and wondered how did he get my name? Hmmmm. Something smells funny. He chose a listing and proceeded to tell me more fishy information. Phew! Thank you for having this BLOG and saving me from making a big mistake! Who knows how many agents they may have contacted
I think I’m in the middle of one of those right now. The buyer’s name is Leo Thang. He hasn’t wired money in yet, though…
We went through the same scam except we are the sellers. We had everything packed up and ready to start a new life. Our house has been on the market for over three years and it was like a dream come true when our realtor called to let us know that we had a contract on our house. We went three weeks into this believing this was a done deal. Our realtor works for a big agency and you would think they would be up to date on all the scams. Our realtor is supposedly still in contact with this chinese person communicating with him about our home. This is the worst experience my husband and I have been through. We just lost my mother-in-law and really wanted a new life. It is a shame that people would do this to other people. What is the world coming to.
I’m currently working with a Japanese man who contacted me through my broker’s website. He is currently in contract to purchase a home, sight unseen, for all cash. Of course, I’m very suspect. He has sent a copy of his bank statement with a Canadian bank. We are waiting for his earnest money deposit and he says he sent it by mail even though we have provided him with wiring instructions for the title company. He also asked for a local attorney “to handle his financial interests” because he didn’t like sending his money to a third party. Well, we’ll see when/if the check comes in the mail.
Same here. I’m in So California…same EXACT language “He also asked for a local attorney “to handle his financial interests” because he didn’t like sending his money to a third party.” Exactly!! Then a check for $185,000 (1/3 down) arrived at the attorney’s office today – written DIRECTLY to the attorney. Well, fortunately it’s only 5 days in to the process. No reputable attorney would deposit the check without a retainer – especially one written directly to the attorney. Kudos to my friend Rick for pointing me to this article.
I think I have the same guy as friendlyinoakland. His last name is Eito and he came in through a broker website…realtor.com. He wants to buy a house he has never seen, but wants to have an inspection and wants me to refer him to a local attorney for the closing. He also sent me a copy of his bank statement which showed he had almost $3M. I asked him to wire the earnest money funds to the law firm. No money has been received yet. Guess I have been scammed…
did this go thru?
Thank everyone for sharing here my latest scam.
DEAR REALTOR
HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
THANKS ALOT FOR YOUR EMAIL.
DO KINDLY FORWARD THE HOME PURCHASE CONTRACTS TO ME.
I AM READY TO SIGN THEM NOW.
DO KINDLY NOTE,I AM OFFERING THE FULL PRICE ON THE PROPERTY AND ALSO I PLAN TO PAY IN CASH.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE ON THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER, 2011.
I AWAIT TO GET THE CONTRACTS ASAP.USE MY FULL NAME( DR. RICHARD SAINSBURY) AND ADDRESS( 108 Harley St London W1G 7ET ENGLAND).
ALSO KINDLY EMAIL A COPY OF THE CONTRACTS TO THE ATTORNEY GEORGE CRETELLA FOR HIS OWN REVIEW.
THANKS.
REGARDS,
DR. RICHARD SAINSBURY.
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Here is an example letter I received:
Hello David,
Thanks so much for your email. Please send me the contract for me to sign and return immediately this will be my retirement home and it will be a cash buy.
1. I will want to close on 28th Sept, 2011
2. I want to put down $10,000.00 Earnest money + $487,000.00 down payment towards home.
3. I want to put contingency on inspection on the contract. I will prefer to deposit my funds in the company of your attorney, because my friend had issue with title company in the past, so I dont want to deal with them direct.
Please forward me a purchase contract agreement in docusign format, docusign format is an electronic way of signing document. http://www.docusign.net
I am presently on Holiday in North America and i will issue payment in US Funds $497,000.00USD for the earnest money and the down payment for the property payable
to your attorney, the check will deliver to your attorney.
Please I need the following information for your attorney immediately at my own expense
Law Firm Name……………………………………………
Law Firm Address……………………………………………….
Law Firm Telephone………………………………………………
Lawyer’s Name…………………………………………………..
Lawyer’s Email…………………………………………………..
Please what amount was it reduced to.
Regards,
Hideki
Ditto for me. We are in Laredo, Texas. The name of the prospect is Richard Sainsbury. We looked him up and he seemed legit but we moved cautiously. The fact that the e-mails were in capital letters and the fact that his english was not proper was our first clue. Second when he contacted me his accent was not English and when I looked up the country code it was from Nigeria. Luckily, their has been no harm done to any client, attorney, or our firm. It just goes to show that we not only need to look out for our clients, but we must watch out for ourselves as well.
Has anybody heard from a Han Lan from Beijing China? Cash buyer on new construction priced at $799,000.00. He offered $749,000.00 and just now sent me a bank statement from the Bank of China showing a 1,057,654.53 balance and he wants to wire $15K immediatly on a house that not only has he never seen, but isn’t nearly complete. I think I’ll let this deal go.
Have received request from Han Lan from Beijing China through REALTOR.com with a gmail email. He is also offering on a home sight unseen, but it is a $725,000 home that he is offering $715,000. He also supplied bank statement from the Bank of China and offered a $15,000 deposit until he gets to the U.S. in another month. After reading your email, I believe I will do the same and let the deal go.
Where are you located? I have heard from him here in Fort Myers FL
Han Lan is hoping to come to Tennessee as well! He offered 630,000 in cash on a lakefront home. Sent a statement from Bank of China.
We have heard from Han Lan and his “processor” here in Baton Rouge, LA
This is the email that we received!!!
We thank you for your message. Please be informed that our organization has send update to us for the payment of $390,100.32, in your possessions. To send update of the payment to us if you receive the payment and make a deposit in your account today. The update is send on behalf of Han Lan, Please update as soon as you receive this message.
Regards,
Graig Peterson, Jr
the “deal” may be that you get a check for more than is needed, it appears legit, but it is a fraudulent check drawn as a cashier check. He will ask you to wire the difference back. If you do, your good wire is NOT covered by the BAD check discovered after the fact.
He did not like the fact that I told him I am not a novice in this business.
Homeowner in Fort Collins, CO
His new name is now Hua Li. Had the same Bank of China bank account with the same balance reported by Steven above $1,057,654.53. Originally had 2.5 Million in account. Offered $380,000 cash on a $399,500 house. We countered with $394,000 and he excepted right away. Sight unseen. Offered a $15,000 earnest deposit then I found this site. Thank you. Only harm was to our hopes and dreams!
I have my home listed in Alaska by a reputable firm and even they fell for this scam … almost. They even went as far as having papers drawn up and submitting a form with a local escrow company here … that’s when their bubble burst! They were told that 2 exactly worded offers went through their office alone recently. My regret is getting all excited about selling my home. One would think the realtor would of smelled a rat. The name of thar rat is Inoue Yuji of Beijing, China. Add him to your lists and beware all you people, we are being attacked through our ignorance!
Will in Alaska
Han Lan has hit the Pacific Northwest! Same MO as the others- almost to a tee! After telling him he couldn’t send the money to me or a lawyer- I’m thinking I won’t hear from him again….
What a stupid waste of time!
Don’t “rain” on my Parade in Vancouver, WA!
Mr. Lan Han does not like me. I told him I was not a novice and to see the scam report.
He replied to the agent:
I am sorry as I would not like to deal with Mr.Webb after the insult he gave me.
Han Lan sure is a busy guy! He has hit multiple Realtor’s in Arizona!
Missouri too, two agents in our office. He even signed a contract. Wants a local attorney as well to represent him.
Meet Fujimaki Teigo the next scammer – same mo as the rest of you -He Got my name from Realtor.com. Go figure… I googled his name and found all this scam info. Thank You
I am a Realtor in WI and I am currently “working” with the same person, although sometimes he spells his name Tiego – - other times Teigo from Japan. We just received EMD for $250,000 “cashier” check, even though I asked for $160,000 would have been 20% of his cash $800,000 offer on a site unseen lake home. The check was made out to the listing agent’s trust fund and sent by his ‘attorney’ Anderson Smith, Financial Advisor (andersonsmith@lawyer.com). I’m instructed to notify the atty. when the check is deposited for release of funds immediately, and,of course, Mr. Tiego will send further instructions for the disbursement of funds. His bank statement of 2+M is from The Royal Bank of Canada ; the EMD from this bank, but issued thru [intact] Disbursement Centre from Montreal, QC. Too good to be true??? I think so!
He hit us here too, same name, Boston area It is all the same MO. Nahant,Mass
Dr. Max Evans is on the prowl to purchase real estate, sight unseen, in Ottawa, Canada. Not sure where he hails from but English isn’t his first language….
Here in Maine…Just had an offer from Beijing ..reads like they had this menu in front of them …very disappointing for a lot of reasons. Provided bank statement , asked for local lawyer , sight unseen, no inspections necessary …TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ..never fails
Hurts a lot of people
ps…it was also almost a full price offer…
futher, just like will sullivan (above) this “client” says his name is Noe Yuij which he later corrected to call himself Noe Yu…Just got a copy of his passport with his photo …unbelievable…
obviously working on percentages …if they bait enough hooks at least one fish will get hooked..
Hideki Matsui has visited me in Virginia with the same MO that David J experienced in September. The only way I found out about this scam is because the prospective seller worked at the sheriff’s department for many years and smelled a rat! I hope karma takes it toll on these people.
And the scams keeping coming. Just got a follow-up email to an email Neo Yu sent me a few weeks back: sight unseen, he wants to purchase my listing. I won’t even bother to open his bank statement; from what everyone has said here, what’s the point? Here’s a copy of his email:
“I have been to the area last year and liked the location. Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month. This for we would not like to lose the property. I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month. The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference. I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close early March. Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.”
‘Tis the season to be ripped off!
Dyan, exact same scenerio, name, letter, EVERYTHING, here in little ‘ole Halifax, Pennsylvania. I am SO glad that I found this blog. What a lifesaver.
After relaying to “Neo” that he will no longer be hearing from our office, and pretty much telling “him” that we are onto him and that all of his correspondences will be forwarded to the authorities, this was the response we received. Has anyone else received such a response?
“This is annoying.
I am a respected individual in my community as I can not tarnish my reputation executing fake transactions.
I intend to buy two properties. One for rent and the other as a primary resident.
Would this be a problem?
Neo”
….I think Neo took the blue pill.
I had this same letter from Hua Li from China. Coming to St Louis, MO in early March 2012
EXACT wording! Watch for these emails Realtors!
Hey there, You’ve done a fantastic job. I’ll definitely digg it and personally suggest to my friends. I’m confident they will be benefited from this website.
Is there any way to stop or punish them?
I just received the same letter as D.N Blass from China and contact name is Mark Lee.We need to stop or better punish them.Any suggestion? Thanks
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: UNIT 24 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid May.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Lee
Lara:
I received the exact same letter from Mark Lee. What can we do – this is a complete waste of time!
Looks like Mark has a brother, Lee Kelvin trying to buy property in York, NE. He has almost the same address and phone number as your Lee. He offered $389,500. $15,000 earnest. Coming to USA next month. Got him an attorney. Got a check for $350,900. We gave everything to the title company.
Just received the same letter as above from Yu Li. I am in St. George, Utah. Beware!
Craig Barr
I am an attorney and had a real estate agent ask me about a similar offer and whether it was legitimate. I googled “Japanese Real Estate Scam” and got here. Just a further caution – some of the checks sent out in these types of scams are very clever forgeries. I have heard of similar checks deposited in attorney’s trust accounts that have not been returned within five days and attorneys who have called and been told by their banks that the check looks like it cleared only to have the check caught further down the processing line and returned as a forged item. The fact that a check doesn’t bounce back in five days does not mean it’s good.
This is what I got from Yu Lin
…
Thank you.
I have been to the area last year and liked the location.
Understand that I and my wife are OK with pictures and information we have
seen so far as we would like to initiate the purchase process from China
before we arrive USA before the end of next month.
This for we would not like to lose the property.
I am in China at the moment and hope to be in USA next month.
The home would be a cash buy as I have attached a scanned copy of my bank
statement for your reference.
My contact information is
Address: Flat 112 XIN CHAOYANG DISTRICT,BEIJING,CHINA
Telephone: 86 96 894 27776
I would like to settle an up front deposit of $15,000 and close Mid July.
Kindly get back to me with the next step in accord.
Regards,
Yu
Just got the same email from Hikaru Furukawa. Same thing… wants to close Mid May… it’s past mid May…
Add Dr. James Watts “from” the UK to your list. Same song, different verse. I was immediately suspicious and sent it to our attorney. I am giving him OUR terms, and the attorney is monitoring the situation. Thank God, my Mama didn’t ‘raise no fool”.